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Thursday, August 23, 2012

143 - Mysterious suicide at IIT Madras - India Today




It appears to be a filmy-style wedding on the lines of Mani Ratnam's 'Alaipaayuthe' (Saathiya) but with a tragic end.

Within a fortnight of joining the M.Tech programme at the IIT Madras, S Merugu Manasa (21), from neighbouring Andhra Pradesh has committed suicide at her hostel dormitory on Tuesday evening. But, it turned out to be a revelation for the family that the brilliant girl had kept her marriage under the wraps.

While the parents were unaware of it, records at IIT showed that her hubby was Srinivas Minisala, said to be working with Infosys at Hyderabad.

'Sakhi', the Telugu version of 'Alaipaayuthe', featuring chocolate baby Madhavan and Kollywood sensation 'Shalini' was a great hit. The film revolves around the lead pair getting married while pursuing their studies and finally getting integrated with their families. Even the songs were hugely popular.

Police have informed both her parents and husband about the death.
Hailing from Ramagundem in Karimnagar district, she had entered into wedlock with Srinivas Minisala, her batchmate at the Jawaharlal Nehru Technological University, Hyderabad. She joined IIT to pursue specialisation in Chemical Engineering and was a resident of the Sarayu Hostel Extension in the campus.

She was sharing the dormitory with seven others. Within a few days of entering the campus, Manasa had disclosed to colleagues that she was married. Known to be fun-loving, her decision to end her life has come as a surprise to her room-mates and others.

Academic pressure could not have been the reason for the suicide is what a senior professor maintained since classes have commenced only from August 1. She has not left any suicide note. This is the second suicide by a student in the campus since April.

Soon after her enrollment, Manasa left for home and after a stay of three days had returned on Tuesday morning. According to her room mates and the hostel staff, she looked a bit disturbed. Police said she skipped lunch, telling her colleagues that she would join them later.

Instead she locked the dormitory from inside and hanged herself from the ceiling fan with her duppata. Though the incident had happened at around 2.30 pm, police were informed only after 4.30 pm. Police investigating the case said personal problems could be the reason that had driven the girl to take this extreme step.

Her roommates who returned in the evening they found the door locked from inside. With no response, they alerted the hostel authorities and the door was broken open. The body was sent for post-mortem and police said her family had collected the body from the hospital.

In a twist to this incident, a photojournalist of an English Daily who visited IIT and took pictures was assaulted by a professor and the security guards. The professor had asked the lensman, who was on his way back, to delete the pictures he had taken.

On refusing to do so, the professor and the securitymen thrashed him.
After the issue snowballed into a controversy, IIT Madras Director Bhaskar Ramamurthy issued an apology for the attack on the photographer.




142 - IIT-Madras student found hanging in room - NDTV


August 21, 2012 21:00 IST

Chennai: A 21-year-old IIT student was today found hanging in her room at the campus, police said. She was rushed to a government hospital, where she was declared brought dead. 

The first year M Tech student, a native of Kareem Nagar in Andhra Pradesh was found hanging in her room by a dupatta around 2.30 pm by a carpenter, who went there to fix a door, they said.

No suicide note was found in her room.

The body is kept at the Government Hospital, they said.



Tuesday, July 10, 2012

141 - Breaking the Glass Ceiling - TOI


Yogendra Yadav Jul 7, 2012, 12.00AM IST

Higher education in India should not perpetuate inequality of opportunity
It's admission time again. Charming images of 'freshers' entering the campus and glossy advertisements of the universities we had never heard before hide the harsh reality of educational mortality from school to higher education. Elaborate coverage of rising cutoffs and entrance tests draw our attention to individual merit and luck. We tend to forget the overwhelming role of 'social luck' defined by the accident of birth. As and when we pay attention to inequality of opportunity, the focus is on economic condition. Media's overwhelming coverage of admission season masks the harsh reality of inherited group inequalities.

Reservations get some attention. Recently, a news report about entrance to the IITs mention that 1,403 students got admission under the scheduled caste category, only two dalit students could secure admission under general category. The figures also showed that if there was no reservation for the OBCs, the IITs would have had only 17% students from this social group that comprises around 45% population of the country. Official statistics did not reveal how many upper caste Hindu students make it to the IITs, but a simple back-of-the-envelop calculation shows that despite reservations, their share is anywhere between two or three times their share in population.
Caste however is not the only axis of inequality. Gender, religion, class, locality and region, not to speak of disability, are some of the principal dimensions of educational inequality in our country. A quick look at Gross Attendance Ratio (GAR) for age-group 18-22 years in the 66th round of National Sample Survey (2009-10) brings it out. GAR is measured as percentage of students who report attending a higher educational institution to the total population in age-group 18-22 years. The overall GAR of the country in 2009-10 was 27.7%. In other words, of the 1,000 youth in the age group of 18 to 22, only 277 reported attending any higher educational institution.
Access to higher education for all the disadvantaged social groups is substantially below this national average: the participation of women (23.2%) and OBCs (26.2%) as a whole was marginally below the national average. The figure was substantially lower for SC (17.3%) and villagers (18.7%) and even lower for Muslims (16.1%) and the scheduled tribe (14.2 %). The strongest single factor is of course the economic condition. Among the lowest two quintiles of income distribution, the GAR was as low as 14.1% and 9.3%. As for the disabled, we can only guess that their situation is perhaps worse than any other category, for there are no official statistics on the number of disabled who manage to enter higher education.
We do not have comparable data for subgroups such as the lower OBC, extremely deprived dalit communities such as those engaged in sanitation or particularly vulnerable tribal groups, or nomadic/DNT communities, but the non-official evidence suggests that their condition is much worse than that of the larger category to which they belong. Census figures show many communities like Musahars in Bihar, several nomadic communities and scavenging castes have barely one graduate in the adult population of 1,000. At 48.6% the GAR among Hindu 'general' category is thrice as high as among SCs and STs. We can expect the 'caste census' to yield clearer information on this.
The situation is compounded when an individual lies at the intersection of more than one axis of inequality. While the overall GAR for women stands at 23.2%, it is much worse for rural women (13.4%) and shockingly low for rural women belonging to the poorest income decile (3.8%). For men the GAR was 31.8%, for urban men 48.7% and for urban males in the richest income decile it was well over 100%.

We cannot expect that expansion of higher education will automatically reduce inequalities. Over the years, the access to higher education has improved for all social groups, but their relative disparities have not reduced substantially. While rapid expansion of private educational institutions has helped to meet the acute need for increasing the capacity, it has also accentuated inequalities by reducing the scope of state action in favour of the disadvantaged. The entry of disprivileged social groups has shifted the site of deepest imprint of social inequa-lity from the lower end of higher education to its upper end.
How then does one address these stark inequalities in higher education? Experience of the past suggests three lessons. First, instead of just talking about inequalities, we need to pay careful attention to the various dimensions of inequalities and how they interact with one another. This would mean targeting subgroups such as scavenging and nomadic communities on the one hand and identifying groups that lie at the intersection of many inequalities, on the other.
Second, talk about equity must be backed by resources. In particular there is a need for a quantum jump in the volume, range and amount of student support measures like scholarship, stipend, assistantship and loans for disadvantaged students. Third, reservation needs to be supplemented by a range of smart equity designs such as a multi-dimensional index of disadvantage for students and a diversity index for institutions.
If these steps are not taken soon equity might quietly drop from our higher educational policy motto of "Expansion, Equity and Excellence".
The writer is a senior fellow at the Centre for the Study of Developing Societies.



Monday, July 9, 2012

140 - Why there's an alarming rash of suicides among Dalit students


BREAKING CASTE
STEPHANIE NOLEN
New Delhi — The Globe and Mail
Published Saturday, Jul. 07 2012, 6:00 AM EDT


The sharply truncated life of Anil Meena was marked by a ferocious tenacity.
From the mud house in rural Rajasthan, where he grew up in a family of subsistence farmers, he made his way first to school and then to the top of his class. He studied with monomaniacal intensity and passed the entrance exam to the All-India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS), the most prestigious of India’s professional colleges – an achievement almost unfathomable in the largely illiterate aboriginal community from which he came.

At AIIMS, he battled through classes where he couldn’t understand a word of the English being spoken and pored over a dictionary to get through textbooks. When an arbitrary rule change – that just happened to affect only students from backgrounds such as his – cost him a passing grade in a crucial exam, he tried repeatedly to meet his course director, his friends say. He sat outside the man’s office for four or five hours at a time for a week.

But Mr. Meena had come up against something his intelligence and perseverance could not overcome: Students of his kind are not welcome at AIIMS, no more than they are at other prestigious Indian universities. They rarely graduate. No one was prepared to help him succeed.

On March 3, Mr. Meena hung himself from the fan in his small dormitory room. He was 22.

His death was a crippling blow to his family, a shock to his friends and an ugly blemish for AIIMS. It was also the 20th reported suicide in four years at an elite Indian educational institution by a student who was either aboriginal or Dalit – the people from the bottom of the Hindu caste system, once known as untouchables.

The suicides have emerged as a subject for fierce debate. Following the promise of the new India, these students are hyper-achievers from the grimmest of backgrounds, who made it into the schools that produce engineers, doctors and business leaders who are sought the world over.

But when they get there, they are often isolated, humiliated and discriminated against. They are told overtly by their professors that they will never make it to graduation. Yet many feel they cannot drop out – families and communities are invested in their success, and many have taken huge loans.
Some, trapped in this dilemma, have chosen to end their lives.

In the very places that produce the innovators who are supposed to shape its future, India is dogged by the darkest forces from its past.

“It’s very pervasive and very invisible,” says Shweta Barge, who monitors educational discrimination for the National Campaign for Dalit Human Rights. 
From a Dalit community herself, Ms. Barge often tried to keep her identity cloaked as she managed to earn a postgraduate degree. “Those [Hindu] ideas of purity and pollution exist across every stream, in every school. It gets to hard-core Indian values: It’s not just about where you reach; it’s about where you came from.”

The suicides have occurred at 16 different institutions, including the Indian Institutes of Technology (IIT) and at the universities of Hyderabad and Bangalore.

In 2008, a final-year Dalit medical student at Government Medical College in Chandigarh in the Punjab hung himself in the college library; Jaspreet Singh left a note in his pocket describing how the head of his department told him repeatedly to his face that he would never, ever be permitted to be a doctor.
That professor had failed him several times in course work, although Mr. Singh had never before had anything but top marks. After his death, an external committee re-evaluated his exams and found that he should have passed. He was awarded his degree posthumously.

On March 3, 2010, exactly two years before Mr. Meena’s death, another young aboriginal man killed himself at AIIMS. Bal Mukund Bharti, 25, was just weeks away from earning his degree, something unprecedented in his community in Madhya Pradesh.

His parents, who’d taken out massive loans to support him, told a team from of investigators from the Insight Foundation, which works to support Dalit and aboriginal students, that he repeatedly complained of harassment from his professors.

He said that one often complained, “I don’t know where they come from, these Dalits and [aboriginals], getting here without studying anything.”

Yet Mr. Bharti was, in fact, brilliant. He had scored eighth among hundreds of thousands of students nationwide in the intensely competitive engineering entrance exam – he passed up the seat to become a doctor instead. AIIMS carried out no investigation and says he had psychological problems.

And this April, an MBA student hanged herself at a private college in Gurgaon, the new technology and industry hub on the edge of Delhi. Dana Sangma was aboriginal, from Meghalaya state in India’s remote northeast.

The university quickly released the explanation that she was distraught after being caught cheating on an exam – but her uncle, her home state’s chief minister, who had personally enrolled his niece at the high-priced school, called that claim preposterous.

He registered a complaint with the National Commission of Schedule Castes and Tribes, saying she had been driven to suicide by harassment at the college.
India has one of the highest rates of suicide in the world, especially in the age group of college students. But these deaths stand out because of the clear connection, often described in suicide notes, with the discrimination the victim endured.

The issue goes to the heart of a story that India wants to tell about itself these days: that traditional guarantees of privilege – wealth and caste – are losing power in favour of merit.

But if that is at all true, it is thanks largely to the program of “reservations” – a form of affirmative action under which all publicly funded educational institutions must reserve about 40 per cent of their seats for aboriginal (or “tribal”), Dalit and “other backward caste” students.

A percentage of jobs in government institutions are also reserved, as are political seats in municipal government.

The education reservations were set out in the Indian constitution adopted in 1950, although it was decades before there was more than a handful of such students who even reached the point of applying, and uproars from dominant-caste students and their families were a consistent drag on the program’s full implementation until recently.

Today, there is a politically incorrect tint to complaining about reservations, but many dominant-caste students still resent them.

India is desperately short of higher-education institutions. The Ministry of Human Resource Development says the country needs at least 1,500 more – 520,000 students wrote the entrance exam for the IIT this year, competing for fewer than 10,000 spots.

A degree from one of the elite engineering or medical institutes is a ticket to a life of comfort. But the competition for seats, combined with the reservations, means the admission cutoff – the minimum grade for acceptance – for non-reserved students hovers in the high 90s.

Dalit students are perceived as taking seats that should go to students who scored higher. Indeed, there are thoughtful critics, such as the leading New Delhi public intellectual Gucharan Das, who point out that inequality in India today does not always follow traditional lines – some in the “other backward caste” groups are prospering, but they pressed to be included among the reservations, while other poor people are left out.

But those are the exceptions. Anoop Kumar, who runs the Insight Foundation, says most of the backlash against reservations comes from an (often deliberate) misunderstanding of the principle. “People are defining merit strictly in terms of marks in the entrance exam, and that conveniently discounts all the other factors affecting the performance of the students,” he says.

“So a student from an urban, upper-caste, upper-class background who has both parents literate and studied at a an elite, private [English-language] school is considered more ‘meritorious’ when he or she has 85-per-cent marks, than a reservation-category student who goes to a terrible government school in [Hindi] and has no one in the family who is literate but still scores 75-per-cent marks.”

Yet their dominant-caste peers still grouse that the reserved-category students would never make it if they had to compete on an open field. Their professors often share that view: As Ms. Barge points out, the faculty in these prestigious institutes is overwhelming made up of people from the dominant castes, since only a single generation of Dalits really has had the chance for a professional education.

“They have this idea rooted in their psyche that tribal and Dalit students ‘don’t have the merit and can’t match up to us,’ ” says Ajita Rao, a Dalit medical doctor who studies discrimination in professional education. “That’s the hidden thing.”

Dr. Rao says that resentment, hostility and isolation – rooted in the idea that Dalits and aboriginals are “unclean” – permeates college life. They are shunned in dining halls and dorms and mocked in classes, ever reminded of their marginalization.

This has a debilitating effect on students who always thought of themselves as achievers.

“You go for [an oral examination] and they ask you your name and where you are from, and you say Meena from Rajasthan – they say, ‘ Oh, okay,’ ” says Jagram Meena, 20, who was a close friend of Anil Meena’s (but no relation – their surname is given to all in their caste group).

He says such exchanges have a direct effect on his performance: “You feel dehumanized and you forget everything you want to say. They are saying, ‘Okay, you are a reservation-category student and you don’t know anything.’ You’re marked from that moment.”

In 2006, a series of protests by Dalit and aboriginal students at AIIMS complaining of discrimination prompted the central government to appoint Sukhadeo Thorat, a prominent academic from a Dalit background, to investigate.

His three-person commission found dorms segregated by caste, students subjected to open hostility by their teachers and even physical attacks by dominant-caste students on those they considered inferior.

The Thorat report said these students consistently reported having less time with oral examiners, and being asked their surname in unnecessary situations. It faulted AIIMS for failing to provided language support to students coming from Hindi- language schools and for relying heavily on subjective assessments rather than more objective tests.

Also, in a grim foreshadowing of the experience Anil Meena would describe a few years later – the report criticized cases of sudden rule changes that had a disproportionate impact on reserved-category students.

In Mr. Meena’s case, the weight given to one assessment was changed to 50 from 25 per cent, seemingly arbitrarily, after the exam had been conducted. This caused him and many other students to fail – almost all reservation students, said Mahinder Meena, an intern at AIIMS (also from the Rajasthani aboriginal community) who helped organize protests after the suicide. The Thorat report recorded a pattern of such incidents.

AIIMS’s administration rejected the report “in totality,” calling it biased, although under public pressure it did increase its language-learning support.
In the wake of Anil Meena’s death, the administration acknowledges only that he had been depressed about failing an exam and was struggling with English.
“This was a tragic event,” says Rakesh Yadav, AIIMS’s subdean for academic issues. “No institution wants that.”

The school did offer financial compensation to Mr. Meena’s parents. But Dr. Yadav rejects the idea that the university’s conduct had any role. “It is absolutely not true. All support any [medical] student needs is provided – the faculty and the administration is always there to help out.”

Dr. Yadav will agree that the area of language support might be insufficient – that an hour a day might not be enough to get a unilingual Hindi student through a medical curriculum. “It’s basically a language problem.”

Beyond that, however, he says there was “no discrimination” in AIIMS. “If you say faculty are doing the discrimination – it’s too much. … They assess students based on marks.”

As for bias, he adds, there are processes to prevent any individual professor from vindictively undermining a student, but clinical skills, for example, must by definition be evaluated in person: “To modify it to be 100 per cent objective – it’s not possible.”

However, after Anil Meena’s death, AIIMS contacted Prof. Thorat again and asked him to return to the school to investigate, which he considers a major improvement over the hostile reception to his last inquiry.
“This time there is an attitude to do something about the problem they face,” he says. “I have a feeling that because of these two suicides … it shook the faculty and teachers.”

Jagram Meena hopes so. He points out that his friend Anil placed 400th in the all-India medical entrance exam, far higher than most of the general-category students at AIIMS. They both certainly struggled in their first year – they had to consult the dictionary 10 times to read a single page of their textbooks – but Anil was managing.

He played Bollywood music loudly to relax, or joined friends – mostly from his caste group – for cricket in the courtyard. His father and brother were taking loans to send him fees every month. He was coping, Jagram says, until the rules kept shifting.

“We’re in no way lower than the general-category students,” says Jagram, sipping tea at the canteen outside the student dorm.

“One day,” he says – when the public schools that prepare Dalit and aboriginal kids are as good as everyone else’s – “we’ll all be one category.”

But Mahinder Meena cuts him off, demanding to know how change like that could come as long as it’s almost impossible for Dalit students to succeed.
“Our fear about his suicide,” Mahinder says, “is that it will change nothing.”

Stephanie Nolen is The Globe and Mail’s correspondent based in New Delhi.




Sunday, June 17, 2012

139 - Cacophony, And The Sound Of Silence - India Today



its/stress
Cacophony, And The Sound Of Silence
The IITs: where many students cower under the glare and heat of brightness

A decade ago, when 19-year-old Devendra Prasad first walked into IIT Kanpur from his village in Orissa, he was amazed at the level of intelligence of the people there. With a limited ability to converse in English, the village boy was apprehensive. His tension increased when, at the hostel, a senior asked him: “Where have you rats come from, with slippers and bags?” That, Prasad remembers, was just the beginning of a crushing stress that would stay with him through the four years of his tenure at India’s best known educational brand.

Despite being a brilliant student and a topper back in his village school, Prasad was always on catch-up mode in his IIT class, just another student in a sea of toppers and bright brains. The curriculum was tough and left little room for anything else. And the socio-economic gap with students from well-to-do families left him crippled with a pressure that he found difficult to get out of.
Often, Prasad thought of running away from the academic gaol he found himself thrown into.
“The IIT admission was a passport to a good life. But there was so much expectation that we could not run away and it was difficult to integrate with the system, academically, socially, emotionally. The stress was difficult to handle,” he recalls.

In many ways, that is the situation facing a large number of students studying at the IITs and leading educational institutions today. A majority of students are under tremendous amount of stress. Many find ways to deal with it, but some give up and run away. Worse, others resort to extreme measures like drinking or drugs. Cases of suicides are also not unheard of.

The initial stress derives from the fact that from being toppers in their school, students come into a pool where everyone is a topper and they have to compete with people smarter than them. Added to that is the extreme demands of the IIT engineering curriculum. The expectations from outside, from family and social circles, which expect IITans to come up tops in everything in life, put back-breaking pressure on kids. Says psychiatrist Dr. Nimesh G. Desai: “The problem is there in all apex institutions. When you put together a bunch of toppers, the pressures work strongly and the mechanism to handle this condition of the high achievers is not present at the institutions. Some institutions have counsellors to aid students. But many have nothing at all.”

 
 
“At IITs, you need your peer group to pull you along. Not graduating with your peers carries a serious psychological burden.”Nalin Pant, Professor, IIT Delhi
 
 
The statistics are shocking. In IIT Delhi, about 600 out of 853 students have gone through counselling because of excessive stress. Obviously, this has a direct impact on students’ academic scores. According to some professors, in some IITs, on an average, 20 per students fail in two subjects. They are sent for probation and lose a semester. Worse, a large number of students do not clear their degree in four years. And that leads to further problems. Says Nalin Pant, a professor of chemistry at IIT Delhi: “IIT is a place where you need your peer group to pull you along. Kids who do not graduate with their peer group suffer serious psychological burden and are not equipped to deal with it.”
Some teachers also blame the ‘system’ for the stress. Says a former IIT student on the condition of anonymity: “The academic pressure at the IITs has not changed in the last 40 years. What has changed is the skills set of students. Because of the changes in the system and quotas, you are getting students with a very poor skills set into an environment that is extremely demanding academically.”

There are other systemic issues. The number of students has increased to such a level that direct or individual attention by teachers is impossible. For instance, 20 years ago, IITs had, on an average, 40 students to a class. Today that number has risen to 300, while the number of teachers has risen by just by 20-30. This is leading to gaps in students’ understanding of course material and lack of feedback to teachers.

Also to blame, say experts, is a coaching culture which prepares students to just crack the IIT-JEE without building a sound foundation in science. Says Arjun Malhotra, chairman, Headstrong, and an IIT alumnus: “Today, kids have been trained only in the objective method of answering questions. Ask them to write an essay answer and most of them just do not know how to do that. Subjective skills are just not there.” And that puts pressure when they are swamped by the IIT curriculum.


A large number of IITians don’t clear their degree in four years. (Photograph by Tribhuvan Tiwari)
Students also feel that much of the pressure is from the academic curriculum and tough routine. Says Nikunj, a student at IIT Delhi: “Stress is roughly equal to number of courses per semester. One course contains lectures, tutorials, three exams, quizzes, submissions, presentations, and a lot of cut-throat competition. Multiply it with six and you have a stressed out student.” While the IITs are aware of the situation and are taking measures like introducing counsellors, they are far and few between. At present the government has permitted only one counsellor per IIT—considering the number of students, this is grossly inadequate.

Teachers are equally stressed out. An IIT professor says on the condition of anonymity: “One of the reasons higher education is reeling is because we are dealing with a large number of first generation learners. There are issues about caste and quota and economic class. You have serious problems in dealing with it as there is no story-telling in technical education.”

Somewhere around, technology is also to blame. Sandipan Deb, a former IIT Kharagpur alumnus, feels that too much access to laptops and the internet has cocooned students within their hostel rooms, instead of allowing them to mix with their peer group. “Before the internet, in the ’80s and ’90s, students formed strong friendships in class and hostels and a support group was there to share emotional, academic and other problems. Now every student has a connection in his room and without interaction, students lead a far more lonely life. There is no way to let out the pressure.”

The silver lining is that many students are back to forming niche groups within IITs where they discuss everything, from academics to theatre. Some IITs have introduced social sciences and subjects like English and psychology as stress busters. But the final detox formula is yet to be written. As things stand, we’ve got some serious thinking to do about our premier institutions—beyond bickering over common entrance tests.

Tuesday, May 15, 2012

138 - Students protest against suicide at IIT-K - TOI


TNN Sep 27, 2011, 01.18pm IST

KANPUR: Scores of students came out on roads in Kakadeo locality in protest against the IIT-Kanpur administration over the suicidal death of Mehtab Ahmed, a BTech first-year student at the institute.

Most of the aspiring students were aspirants of Joint Entrance Exam of 2012.
During their protest, they were holding banners and placards in their hands condemning the ever-increasing cases of suicides at IIT-K.

The students also raised slogans criticising the IIT-K director and demanded a probe into the entire matter.

They alleged that ten students have committed suicide at IIT-Kanpur so far and institute's administration had done nothing about it.

The protest was led by Kilkil Sachan, a rusticated student of IIT-Kanpur. 

Meanwhile, a maths teacher of Chhatrapati Shahuji Maharaj University, V N Pal, also staged a dharna at IIT-Kanpur gate. He was supported by nearly one dozen students. Pal said that this protest was staged to awaken the sleeping IIT-Kanpur administration over the increasing cases of suicides at the institute.

137 - IIT hanging case: Father alleges ragging, fresh case registered - Indian Express



Shalini Narayan : New Delhi, Sat Feb 11 2012, 01:04 hrs

Seven months after Dinesh Ahlawat, a first-year chemical engineering student, allegedly committed suicide by hanging himself from a ceiling fan in an IIT Delhi hostel, his father has filed a case of abetment to suicide, saying ragging by seniors forced his son to end his life.

Dinesh died two days before his 19th birthday. His father Yashveer Singh, who teaches science at a school in Rohtak, alleged that Dinesh spoke to him twice and complained that he had been ragged by seniors.

When his body was found on August 4 in the Zanskar hostel, police ruled out ragging as a reason for the alleged suicide and said he may have had “adjustment problems and homesickness”.

While investigating officers said the case was one of suicide, Dinesh’s death remained a mystery since he was found hanging with his hands tied with a handkerchief and legs bound with his vest. Police now say the probe will continue, that the autopsy concluded it was “suicidal hanging” with no external injury marks on the body.

Yashveer Singh appealed before the Saket court, saying he wasn’t satisfied with the response he got from the institute or the police. The court directed police to register a case. A case under IPC Section 306 — abetment of suicide — has been registered.

In his statement to the police, Singh said: “Students had to break open the door to get in and lower my son’s body. He was rushed to hospital where he was declared brought dead. On 30.7.2011, he told me he was ragged by his seniors. I spoke to him on August 1 and 2 when he spoke to the rest of the family too. Later, I found out that on August 3, seniors had ragged the juniors.”

“I strongly suspect that it was because of this (ragging) that my son felt humiliated and took his life,” Singh said.

He told Newsline: “My son called me and told me that he would be coming home for his birthday... The college administration has hidden the real issue from us. Otherwise, why was my son’s body discovered by three seniors? What were seniors doing in his hostel at that time?”

Shashi Mathur, Dean of Students at IIT Delhi, said: “We are as confused about the matter as anyone else. He was a bright student, a very nice boy. An inquiry committee was constituted which stated that there was no element of ragging. The institute carries out regular sessions on anti-ragging awareness. I lead the team that goes around the 12 hostels and counsel students about the Supreme Court ruling. It is mandatory for students to attend this.”

Chhaya Sharma, DCP (South), said: “We received orders from the court under Section 156 (3) CrPc and we have complied with it.”


136 - Retired IIT Delhi professor jumps to death from seventh floor - NDTV



Press Trust of India | Updated: October 22, 2011 22:22 IST

New Delhi:  A retired IIT Delhi professor killed himself today by jumping off the seventh floor of the IIT building, police said.

62-year-old Ashok Kumar Sharma, who was a resident of Dwarka, had retired recently and had continued to frequent the IIT campus.

He committed suicide by jumping off the seventh floor of the main administrative building at 12.30 pm today, a police official said.

He is survived by his wife, two daughters and a son. 

While a son and a daughter stay in the United States, another daughter lives in Orissa where she works as a Professor.

"His wife is on a visit to Orissa," the official said. Police said the retired professor was in the middle of some court cases pertaining to his age.

Preliminary inquiry also suggested that he was disturbed due to health reasons.



135 - Another suicide at IIT Bombay forces authorities to rethink academic policies



BY ABHISHEK RAJ – AUGUST 6, 2011

Another final year student at IIT Bombay has committed suicide, taking the toll to 12 deaths this year. The deceased student, Aniket Prasad, hanged himself in his room while his roommate was attending classes. As a result, IIT Bombay has regained its supremacy by surpassing IIT Delhi in the aggregate number of suicides thus far.

Aniket’s friends were shocked by his suicide. They believe he could have been distressed because he had failed in quite a few courses in the third year and his C.P.I. had taken a plunge. 

The gender imbalance in the IITs and the fresh hullabaloo surrounding the spread of the gay disease in the campus meant that he spent more time in labs than in caféterias and multiplexes. He had a break-up with his girlfriend because he couldn’t land a foreign internship in the last summer. His roommate Pratik reported that Aniket was also upset over being seen as a geek by his relatives. He wanted to be creative and develop a multifaceted personality, but his coaching centre in Kota, and then IIT Bombay, ensured that his pursuit of happiness persisted in the direction they chose.

Pratik further added, “Aniket seemed depressed in the last few months. However, this is not considered a big deal here and a visit to the on-campus psychiatrist is considered good enough to rid one off his depression.” Another student reported (under the assurance of anonymity) that this instant relief provision at the psychiatrist’s has something to do with his hot compounder.

Vishwa Hindu Parishad has blamed the ISI and Islamic terrorists for these deaths. They have demanded a CBI enquiry.

Some students (among those still alive) blame the spate of suicides to the abominable food provided in the mess. Another student was shrewd enough to point out that all those students who committed suicide in the past shared one common trait. Apparently, none of them had Posts of Responsibilities (PORs) on their résumés.

The Dean of Student Affairs (popularly known as DoSA) considers these suicides a testimony to the rigorous academics of the IITs and is proud that he has managed to get the better of the best students. “This is a flawless model of survival of the fittest. We are running an educational institute here and not a life insurance company. Students have to play by our rules. It is my vision to make the IITs the best engineering institutions in the world. Few suicides here and there won’t deter our resolve. It is a small price that we need to pay reckoning the huge stakes.” Aniket’s batch-mates are rather excited because these suicides have reduced the rivalry for the campus placements. As this is only the beginning of the placement season, they expect further reduction.

Meanwhile Nitish Kumar, the Chief Minister of Bihar, has requested the Central Government to grant Bihar a special state rank because five out of these twelve students were from this state. He expressed concerns over tortures that Bihari students undergo from their peers in the IITs due to Bihar’s development levels.

According to Anna Hazare, these suicides represent students’ dissatisfaction with the corrupt government. “Now the government can’t escape from the charges of corruption. Indian youth, led by the valiant IITians, seek answers. We will ensure that their martyrdom doesn’t go waste. This movement will continue till we achieve a corruption-free State. We are ready to pour more blood into this fight. After all, we have fifteen IITs and so many colleges. More students will emulate the deeds of these twelve martyrs. ”

Due to protests from different political parties and social activists, Kapil Sibal, the Union HRD Minister, convened a caucus of the directors of all the IITs. After a lengthy discussion, the following recommendations were made to reduce the number of suicides and de-stress the students:
  1. Introduction of a Girls’ quota in the admission process to improve boys’ attendance in classes.
  2. Replacement of ‘Simulations and Modelling’ in the final year project with modelling stints to create new jobs for students in the best modelling agencies.
  3. Signing an MoU with Channel V to allow students to participate in shows like Love Net, Axe Your Ex, Dare 2 Date, to provide them with opportunities to date.
  4. 60% reservation in campus placements for students having C.P.I. less than 5. Students having more number of backlogs will be preferred.
  5. Opening multiplexes, pubs, discos in the IIT campuses.
The government hopes these measures will reduce pressure if implemented.



134 - Student commits suicide, says tired of IIT in note - Hindustan Times



IANS
Kanpur, September 23, 2011

A student of Indian Institute of Technology-Kanpur (IIT-K) was found hanging from his hostel room, police in this Uttar Pradesh town said on Friday, suspecting that he was depressed over a failed love affair.

Mahtab Ahmed, 18, a first year student of B.Tech material science and engineering from Kannauj, was found hanging from the ceiling fan in his room Thursday.

While no suicide note was found, police believe Ahmed was in depression, as evident from the writing on the walls of his room.
"I am tired of IIT…What is the meaning of happiness, yet trying to get answer," wrote Ahmed on one of the walls.

"We suspect a failed love affair as one of the possible reasons... We have learnt that Mahtab was having a love affair with a girl, who was from outside the campus," a senior police officer told IANS.

"We have also come to know that Mahtab used to write poems over his relationship with the girl, who is yet to be identified," he added.

When contacted, Inspector Rajesh Kumar, who is investigating the case, said: "We are probing the case from all the angles. Love affair is also one of them."
According to IIT-K Registrar Sanjeev Kashalkar, the suicide was detected Thursday evening when Ahmed did not respond to the repeated door knocks by his friends.

"We informed the police and they broke open the door," said Kashalkar.


133 - BTech student commits suicide in IIT-Kanpur - Deccan Herald


Kanpur, Sep 22 (PTI)2011

A first year BTech student of IIT-Kanpur today allegedly committed suicide in his hostel room, the ninth such case in five years, police said.

19-year-old Mehtab Ahmed, a resident of Kannauj in Uttar Pradesh, hanged himself in his hostel room, they said. The reason as to why he took the extreme step was not immediately known.

The incident came to light when his friends found him hanging in his room and reported the matter to the authorities following which the warden rushed to the hostel and found him dead.

"Ahmed was a student of Material Science and Engineering and was living in Room No 307," IIT-K Director Sanjay Dhande said. The IIT-K authorities immediately constituted a four-member committee to probe the matter and reported the incident to Kalyapur police station. The committee has been asked to submit its report within a week, he said.

Dhande said Ahmed had taken admission in IIT-K just two months back. Asked if he was driven to suicide because of ragging, he said the matter was being looked into, but, prima facie it did not appear to be so.

Meanwhile, IIT-K Registrar Sanjeev Kashalkar said the boy's family members have been informed. The news of his suicide created flutter inside the campus as this was the ninth such case during the last five years.

Reply to an RTI query showed that from 2005 to 2010, two girl students and six boys of IIT-K have committed suicide. Five students committed suicide in their hostel rooms, one jumped from the roof of a building in the campus and another jumped in front of a moving train. Yet another had consumed poison.

132 - Suicide at IIT - Telegraph


Thursday , July 21 , 2011 |



OUR CORRESPONDENT

Kharagpur, July 20: An IIT Kharagpur student who failed to clear the fourth-year exams last year and fared badly this time too was found hanging in his hostel room today.

Police said they suspected Pankaj Chaudhury, a metallurgy student, had committed suicide. The 24-year-old, who hailed from Uttar Pradesh, was found hanging from a ceiling fan in the Meghnad Saha Hall and Residence on the IIT campus this afternoon.

Chaudhury’s roommates said they returned from classes around 3pm and found him hanging. The door had been left open. The students informed the authorities who, in turn, called the police. The police brought Chaudhury’s body down and took him to the institute’s hospital, where he was declared dead on arrival.

A police officer said Chaudhury had been “suffering from depression” as he had failed the exams last year and “done badly this time too”. His family has been informed.
The officer said no suicide note had been found. IIT officials have refused comment.

131 - IIT boy found hanging in hostel - TOI


IIT boy found hanging in hostel
TNN Oct 19, 2011, 02.03AM IST

KHARAGPUR: Sunil Kujur, a fourth year student of IIT Kharagpur, was found hanging in his hostel room on Tuesday evening. He was a brilliant student and had no problem with studies but was depressed for some reason, say his friends.
This is the second suicide at IIT-Kgp in three months. In July, a final year student of the metallurgy department had killed himself.

"Kujur had stopped interacting with his friends and hostel mates for the past month. He had become a recluse and even refused to take food at times," said an institute official. On Tuesday, his friends knocked on Kujur's door at Jahangir Hall but got no reply. They broke it down to find the 22-year-old hanging from the ceiling.

He was a resident of Bhilai in Chhattisgarh. "He had an excellent academic record. There is no possibility of stress due to studies. We initially thought Kujur was remaining aloof due to the semester examination," said the IIT-Kgp official. 

Kujur's family members are on their way. No suicide note was found, said Kharagpur additional SP Miraj Khaled. "We are trying to speak to his friends to find out why he killed himself. We will take his laptop for investigation," Khaled said.

Monday, February 27, 2012

130 - Koshish Karne Walon Ki Haar Nahin Hoti,


Koshish Karne Walon Ki Haar Nahin Hoti,

Lehron se darkar nauka par nahin hoti,
koshish karne walon ki haar nahin hoti,

Nanhi cheenti jab daana lekar chalti hai,
chadhti deewaron par, sau bar phisalti hai.
Man ka vishwas ragon mein saahas bharta hai,
chadhkar girna, girkar chadhna na akharta hai.

Akhir uski mehnat bekar nahin hoti,
koshish karne walon ki haar nahin hoti.


Dubkiyan sindhu mein gotakhor lagata hai,

ja ja kar khali haath lautkar aata hai.

Milte nahi sahaj hi moti gehre paani mein,

badhta dugna utsah isi hairani mein.

Muthi uski khali har bar nahin hoti,
Koshish karne walon ki haar nahi hoti.

Asaflta ek chunauti hai, ise sweekar karo,
kya kami reh gayi, dekho aur sudhar karo.
Jab tak na safal ho, neend chain ki tyago tum,
Sangharsh ka maidan chhodkar mat bhago tum.

Kuch kiye bina hi jai jaikar nahin hoti,
koshish karne walon ki haar nahin hoti.



By Dr Harivansh Rai Bachchan 

Saturday, December 3, 2011

129 - IIT launches confession box to help students vent woes - TOI




CHENNAI: Confessions can help save lives. The idea has prompted Indian Institute of Technology - Madras to encourage students to share their experiences and feelings on an Online Confession Box to help them cope with stress caused by academic and parental pressures orbroken relationships. "It's not always easy to find a person you can trust to talk to at any time of the day. Sometimes you just have to hear yourself talking about the issue to somebody, just rant. At such times, an online confession box helps," said a second year student, who declined to be named.

Students can log on to the Online Confession Box on the social networking page of the General Counselling Unit (GCU) and speak out while remaining anonymous. They can also seek help from behavioural experts through the confession box. There have been three suicides at IIT-M this year, spurring the institution to launch mental health initiatives, including a 24-hour helpline manned by behavioural experts and the social networking page offering tips on how to handle stress and identify psychological disorders like a obsessive compulsive disorder.

The revamped GCU is to be named Mitr. "For several years, GCU was in fire-fighting mode, helping students in distress. Now, we are trying to take preventive measures," said GCU head Sivakumar Srinivasan.

Other IITs too have launched similar initiatives. IIT Bombay and IIT Delhi have student mentor programmes that identify senior students on whom freshers can bank on to guide and help them handle academic and co-curricular issues. It has been found that while 35% of students at theMassachusetts Institute of Technology and 45% in Harvard seek help for mental health issues, only 5% of students come to the GCU.

"This is because of the stigma attached to going to hospital for such issues. So we have come up with ideas for students to get help online through social networking sites, talks by alumni on topics, and addressing them as a group in the hostel to give tips on, say, 'How to study whenfriends keep dropping in'," Sivakumar said.

Alumni have also offered support in many ways. Raju Venkatraman of the 1981 batch, who started Medall Healthcare, has tied up with IIT-M to provide 24-hour assistance through tele-counselling with behavioural experts. "At one of our discussions in the Centre for Alumni Relations Enhancements, we asked for suggestions. One of the first to respond was Raju, who said he would help them handle behavioural issues," said advisor at IIT-M's office of alumni affairs R Nagarajan.

The GCU is also trying to get alumni who have gone through tough times to talk to students. "If an alumnus who was into substance abuse in college can talk about how it affected his life and how he overcame it, it will get students to kick the habit," said Sivakumar.

The manpower at GCU has been strengthened to include 15 faculty volunteers and five head student counsellors. They will co-ordinate with 100 students across departments and hostels. Medall Healthcare has given students and faculty the first level of training in counselling to identify those in need of help.

Monday, November 21, 2011

128 - 1986 batch to give IIT students a professional counselling service - Indian Express

mihikabasu

Posted: Mon Nov 21 2011, 02:49 hrs
Mumbai:

To address the academic and psychological problems faced by students of IIT Bombay, the focus of the institute’s 1986 batch will be to establish a dedicated “counselling services programme”. The initiative is part of the legacy project of the 1986 batch, titled “student quality of life improvement”. The former students are getting together next month for their silver jubilee reunion.


“With increase in student suicide rates, there is an immediate need to address academic, emotional and psychological attributing factors faced by the students. Accordingly, there is a need to establish and enhance a professional counselling service programme at IIT Bombay,” said Sandeep Pandya from the 1986 batch, who is also treasurer of the IIT Bombay Heritage Fund (IITBHF).

The programme, says a white paper on the project, will look at recruiting professional, high-quality medical/psychological counsellors and creating a collaborative programme to leverage expertise and assistance from top medical/psychological institutes in Mumbai. It will also focus on formalising and providing mentoring services through the alumni community to help with career counseling and industry mentoring.

The batch aims to raise Rs 2.25 crore for their legacy project, where 50 per cent of the contributions are expected to come alumni in India and the rest from those abroad. “The 1986 batch legacy is to strengthen existing and create new programmes related to students and is the first batch to adopt this approach,” says the white paper.

Part of the project will look at strengthening the existing “financial aid programme (FAP)” for needy students of IIT Bombay. “The FAP has been successful over the past five years since its founding. The programme has issued 870 loans to over 480 students, disbursing Rs 1.7 crore. There’s an immediate need to fund this project as intake of needy students is increasing. In addition, there is a government proposal on the table to potentially increase IIT tuition fees in the coming years, further posing financial challenge to students,” said Nilesh Vani from the 1986 batch.

Accordingly, the former students will continue to support the project and create a growing endowment. “We are very happy that the 1986 batch has decided to support the financial aid programme which had been initiated by the 1981 batch and aims to make IIT education financially available to everyone. This will help the programme grow into a huge, sustainable project in years to come,” said Bakul Desai, member of the board of directors, IIT Bombay Alumni Association (IITBAA).


Saturday, October 22, 2011

127 - Reservation in IITs will require Suicide watch by Rambo

Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:34:52 +1000
Conversation: Reservation in IITs will require Suicide watch


I believe that many IITians especially those who come from the cities and who have attended private schools in cities etc may not be in a position to comprehend the kind of torture it will be for a student from a country town, (even if he is a forward caste) to come to IIT where most students are behaving like white men from a different planet. It will scare the shit out of a village kid and whose first thoughts would be to cut loose and run back to his environment.. Can we catch a monkey from the trees of a jungle and expect the monkey to perform in a circus without training.

Imagine you are from a village and badly dressed and wearing chappals when every one around you is carrying a lap top and iPod and wearing expensive Nike shoes...Will this impact a village student even if he is from the forward caste... Like mad..

Now imagine this same kid is from the Sc/St class and does not even live in the main village and lives on the periphery in a hut and the father is a day labourer...
Imagine this student sitting in CLT with 200 other students listening to a lecturer teaching maths or physics expecting every student (because he is clever enough to get admission to IIT) to follow all that is being taught.. ( Most often these maths and physics lecturers are PG's who have little teaching skills adding to the woes of such a student)
Remember this village student does not understand a word of English and every day every subject is being taught in English at a lightening pace. Do faculty care about students who are struggling to keep pace. No Sir not at IITs..

Hey I went to an English medium school and attended Loyola College. I had no problem with English, physics or chemistry the way they were taught. But Maths was a nightmare for me.. I was learning calculus for the first time as we did not have calculus in PUC in our time.. The nerds had taught themselves before classes had commenced. Me the Mr cool assumed at IIT they will teach you everything from scratch and I was WRONG. In the first year my maths teacher was good Mr Koteeswar Rao but he had no time for the minority who had not done calculus at school. Man I never understood what dy/dt was. We then had a Prof Srinivasan who faced the black board for all two or three hours and scribbled on the black board the whole time. Did I learn Integral calculus ? No Sir.

At the end of the first year I told my dad it was a mistake to join IIT and I should have gone to Guindy college.. His answer was I told you so. Then I had my friend DLN Sastry who was brilliant but had never learnt English. He struggled the first three years and still topped the Aero Branch in the 5 year B Tech course.

Today thanks to coaching classes maths physics and chemistry are a breeze.. Students find the first two years so easy to score marks that they all get well over 90% and then when their real branch courses start they just float along and get marks in the 70% range and still end up with very high averages overalll to get a first class.. I have spoken to fresh graduates who say that they relax in the last two ears and teach themselves computer programming so thy can apply for jobs in IT....

If SC/ST/OBC students are to succeed in IITs and compete on equal grounds, HRD must pick these students and send them to coaching schools as opposed to the extra one year at IITs where faculty do not do real justice....to these disadvantaged students..

I know some one like Suresh will refute this charge but he is a faculty member and will not understand the subjective issues faced by reservation students.
       Rambo
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    On 2/7/08 3:37 PM, "Ramanan R"  wrote:

So that is it.

The routine at IIT, as Rambo routinely puts it, is intimidating for somebody who suddenly gets transplanted from a culture where there a celebration when the student just "passes" the exam. They need help to transit to this new culture which outwardly looks without a "human touch". But no institution of excellence can behave benign.  It was not easy for small towners like me when I came from a small town called Hyderabad 30 years ago. To add, I used to be called half golti.

If you do not prepare students, it is torture for them.

That is why I protested that 290 Govt. schools were being closed right here in Hyderabad. Can you imagine what would be the state in the countryside. And all these kids want to go to any engg college where transparency would less than 50% of what you get at IITs. That is why I say the supporters of reservation are not fighting for the depressed, but for get more freebies for themselves. Else creamy layer would have pushed very hard by Karunanidhi, Lalu Prasad, Mulayam et al.

regards
ramanan (late)
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From: "Prof. P. Sriram"  Reservation in IITs will require Suicide watch

On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Ram Krishnaswamy wrote:
[lots of accurate things, but also]

(Today thanks to coaching classes maths physics and chemistry are a  breeze.. Students find the first two years so easy to score marks that  they all get well over 90% and then when their real branch courses  start they just float along and get marks in the 70% range)
we have just compiled the statistics for the last 7 years or so; in the last 3 years, there has been a dramatic dip in the scores of students in maths, physics and chemistry, very notably in maths. they dont get 90% and breeze through. last year, for example, in maths 1, about 200 (out of 500)
students failed and were given a re-exam, even after which some 75 or so failed. the grades in departmental subjects are actually better.

( If SC/ST/OBC students are to succeed in IITs and compete on equal grounds, HRD must pick these students and send them to coaching schools as opposed to the extra one year at IITs where faculty do not do real justice....to these disadvantaged students.. I know some one  like Suresh will refute this charge but he is a faculty member and  will not understand the subjective issues faced by reservation students.)
actually, this may be a better idea than the present system of iits running the preparatory course. i even suspect suresh may be in favour of this, especially if it means we will shut down the preparatory course.

sriram

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From: Bhamy Shenoy
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:36:23 +0000
Subject: Reservation in IITs will require Suicide watch

Ram,

I completely agree with you regarding the problem students from villages and small towns face. In fact what you have described explains in every small details what I faced when I landed in IIT.

Today if any student from a village by chance gets into IIT B.Tech course will face the problems you describe. But I venture to say that any slum student from a city or even from a rich family from village getting admission to IIT is very slim. They just do not have access to good schooling.  This is also connected with caste problems.

It is a pity that we tend to concentrate only on reservation (I agree that it is a significant problem) and ignore more burning problems of all children not having access to primary and secondary schooling.

Regards
Bhamy 

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Friday, October 21, 2011

126 - 2007 - 'My list didn't lead to IIT suicide'

Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:40:08 -0700 (PDT)
 
Is public humiliation needed to put a student back on track?


Also, the IIT campuses need better counseling services.
Indira

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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:23:03 +1000
Conversation: 'My list didn't lead to IIT suicide'


In a recent article, an IIM Professor had concluded that, for “one really good and committed faculty member in IITs an IIMs we had atleast three hanging on to a job”. While IITs filter 5000 students out of 300000 aspirants through the JEE each year, what about the quality of faculty members ? People get into the system as Asst Lecturers and stay in the system and become the system for life, whether they perform in their jobs or not. Most do their PhDs and become academics from day one with nil field experience and we cannot blame the students for  not beig inspired by such faculty. Some claim there is some form of appraisal system in some of the IITs, which makes me wonder. Faculty need a system where there is a 360 degree feed back that will determine if they should continue as faculty or not. Apppraisal of faculty members should come from the very students they teach and not their coolleagues. Will these very faculty members  who threaten students with a “F” grade face up to such scrutiny the the very students

I did my civil engineering too at IITM, way back in the sixties. I can remember three faculty members who were extraordinary teachers and no one even missed their classes. In fact there was a rush to get there early to sit in front row. The rest were not teachers at all just public servants.

In my fourth year, I was threatened by a faculty member in soil mechanics at IITM. He ridiculed me in public in soil mechanics class for not knowing “the simple diifference between density and specific gravity” and gave me a
zero for my lab work. I challenged him to explain the difference himself. He fumbled and failed and the entire class laughed at him and the next thing I knew, he said “Get out of my class. I will make sure you repeat the fourth year”. Now that was a threat I was not going to take lying down. I was not going to allow him to fail me and then commit suicide was I ?

The rest is history as the entire class made me pen a statement of the event as it took place and every one signed as witnesses. I was asked by HOD Prof Sankaran, who was also a Hostel warden to his house for tea the following day. He promised me that he would take necessary action on the concerned staff member and told me that I should go and study for my final exams and that no body was going to fail me, as the HOD himself was going to correct the final exam papers. I got an A in my final exam.

The next week the concerned staff member was made to come and apologise to the entire class but not for just the episode with me. The man even cried asking for forgiveness. A few of us proved to the HOD that he had tampered with our grades for the whole year. I was the one who realised that having got an “S” grade for every lab report my mid term report showed a “B” grade as the average, which we assumed as a mistake made by the academic section staff. We took the matter to our favourite faculty member who investigated
and established that this had been done not just to me but 14 of my classmates. If this could happpen in 1969 the situation is probably much worse now considering IITs have become such pressure cookers with faculty being menaces, leading to so many suicides at IITs.

Perhaps the faculty member who teaches a subject should not be allowed to mark exam papers. Education should be fun.

I can understand why Civil engg students at IITs cannot be bothered about civil engg, because they know in their hearts the minute they walk out of the IIT Campus with a B Tech degree they will be switching to finance or software industry. It was never my intention to practice as a Civil engg that I did not choose but was give to me based on my JEE entrance rank. I switched to Acoustics & Industrial Noise control as I loved physics and Acoustics as was taught by Prof Koteeswar Rao of the maths dept.

I also believe that Faculty in IITs should get a transfer every three years to another IIT so that they do not get bored teaching the same stuff year after year in the same class rooms on the same campus. Imagine a life where a faculty member spends 30 years on one campus teaching and living in one house.

Should IIT Alumni not seek a special commission to look into these suicides at IITs or is life so cheap that we carry on regardless ? If my count is correct the Umang Group of IIT alumni has recorded as many as seven suicides in a short span of two years. I do not believe any student who makes iit through JEE does not have the brains to pass the B tech. The reasons lie elsewhere

Rambo

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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:40:38 +0530
Subject: 'My list didn't lead to IIT suicide'

A prof who sends a list of students who are likely to get an 'F' to the whole class is an idiot. He is an idiot who does not recognise that each of these kids will be formidable competiton if he he/she are faced with the unfortunate situation of competing one on one against any of them.

A former director of IITM, once on visit to my house told my father, less than 25% of the faculty would get through JEE and less than 50% would get through GATE.

On the other side is the pressure that parents bring on their young impressionable kids. The parents build up some vague "egos" and "status in the society" issues around the grades kids get. They should be ashamed of not standing by their kids when the kids can do with help. Who else is supposed to relieve stress and give support if not the parents?. B.Tech from IIT is no B.Com from the college in the next street.

We used to say - it is more difficult to get a second class than getting past JEE in our days in IITM, when we had absolute grading.
 

Most of us came from not very rich families and valued the education.

Yet, bad teaching is a realty - in IIT and everywhere. It is not easy to inspire a class of guys who are so bright - unless the faculty is passionate about his subject and has good communication skills. I still must have a copy of a report we produced as students in 1976 to explain what is great teaching according to the students. Of course I ran into trouble with my HOD then.

Such a waste. Terrible waste.
Ramanan ( LATE) , B.Tech 76

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Subject:  'My list didn't lead to IIT suicide'

Dear Ramanan and Rambo (and others),

It was real nice reading your heartfelt comments on the IITK suicide. Like most people, I also would not wish to see suicides in any campus or for that matter in any place/situation.

One common thread in most discussions in this forum on any topic concerning IIT's is that everbody's model of what IIT(M) is the natural one -- the one that existed during their time at IIT(M). However, I must point out that IIT's are not static by any stretch of imagination. The student body changes, the curriculum changes, the rules of the game changes and so on. This was one of the things that hit me when I returned to this campus almost a decade after graduation as a faculty member.

The point I wish to make is that your vision about what IIT is about may have very little to do with the ground reality.

At this point, it is tempting to attempt to nitpick at your various comments. Instead of this, I wish to finish this email with just one comment: In my experience, it is much harder to fail a course at IITM than to get the highest grade (of course, the grading system has changed since your time as well as mine). I can't comment about IITK.

I do not find the time the participate in several of the debates that take place in this group but I nevertheless do try to follow them. Keep it up folks.

Suresh Govindarajan
Class of 1986 & and a non-German IITM faculty member:-)

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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:02:30 +1000
Conversation:  'My list didn't lead to IIT suicide'

Suresh
 

One would have expected IITs to change for the better. We should have built on what we already had and not screw them up.

A five  year course suddenly became a four year course. Wonder which politician made that decision.

Then we had changes allowing JEE to be taken in several languages.


This alone could be the reason why so many suicides are taking place especially up north. Imagine students who never studied English sitting in classes taught in English.

How Pathetic is a system that gives admission to SC and ST students and makes them all study one extra year and making them untouchable on campus in an indirect sort of way. 


Upnorth there is a specific name for these poor students from Sc and ST quotas to be treated inferior in class by the merit students. These students have pride too and have feelings too do they not ?

Suresh 30% of the Faculty in IITs are of good standard the rest are a waste of time. With reservations I believe even the good faculty wll quit in disgust .

In conclusion the ground reality is that IITs are screwed up and dancing to the tunes of bureaucrats in HRD ministy made up of fellows who could not make it into IITs and IIMs and like to destroy them. Well these are the foolS guiding the HRD minister, who is so old that he may not remember what he had for breakfast leave alone rememBer the difference between IIT and IIM

Any way it was nice to hear from you after such a long long time . Where have you been hiding mate?
 

Rambo
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Conversation: My list didn't lead to IIT suicide'

I do not see why we need to ape other university systems, we should create our own model. All Central Govt servants are in transferrable jobs. Why should faculty at IITs not be transferred to other IITs instead of stagnating and letting down roots in their offices ?

I cannot believe that faculty members get rotated. Imagine a Structures professor teaching hydraulics or soil mechanics. I can now see how the system has been eroded where any faculty can teach any subject. Tell me in which university you see this process?

Education is not about cramming some class notes and regurgitating as happens in IITs. The entire focus of faculty is on Grades and not making education interesting and fun and imparting knowledge.

Ofcourse in the fisrt 15 years IITs got students who had the aptitude and wanted to do engineering studies. Today IITs have become a national obsession and seen as a passport to success.

No education system should drive any student to suicide. I do read of many teen suicides in Australia yet the cause has never been one of not being able to cope with studies.

I envy the system in Uniiversity of Technology where my son breezed through a double degree in Business and Law.

Every lecture was conducted twice a day. One in the morning and one at night and students could attend either. No attendance taken and faculty hardly knew the students as even students who majored in other subjects like humanities could choose subjects as long as they met the pre requisites.

Assignments were quite often multiple choice questions done via the uniiversity web site on the internet and essays were also submitted as attachments by emails.

The question is what can alumni do to counsel such students who are driven to extremes ?. I do not believe  this can be an internal process as students willl not come forward with their problems.

Can some one explain why any faculty member has to circulate a list of students who might get an 'F' Grade .



Sorry who ever this Gupta at IITK is is a MORON and should not be teaching

Students get burnt and students also get scarred for life by mindless bodies posing as faculty members. A teacher needs compassion and patience and should know that every student is different.

But then faculty at IITs are not trained in education are they. Any one with a PhD can apply and become a faculty member.

One can be extremely smart academically but that does not mean they can teach. Only a small percentage of people know what teaching is all about.

Even to this day I remember wiith Joy the English classes conducted by Prof Krishnamurthy. He was a teacher for sure.




Rambo
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Here is a note from a recent Graduate from IIITK
Name with held by request
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Eye opening article.

As I recollect my IIT K days, there used to be competition among some profs to give "F" grades. Many Profs were sadists, who themselves could not achieve anything in life. Sometimes I feel I can be a better teacher with 14 years of Industry exp than these fresh PHDS , but system doesn't allow B.Techs to be Prof.

Students also feel (By the way I also felt that way) - "IIT is the only thing in the world, if I don't pass , Sun will stop shining". They also need to be told that Aircraft was invented by Cycle Mechanics.

Best Regards

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Subject: 'My list didn't lead to IIT suicide'


The number of SC/ST students who spend N (>4) years has definitely come down since the preparatory course was started. The reason is simple -- this course bridges the gap and prepares them to complete the B.Tech. programme in the stipulated 4 years (it is five if you include the one-year preparatory course). During the duration of the course, the students are provided boarding and lodging. When I taught the course, I found that about 80% of the students are sincere and work hard and do benefit from the one-year stint. As far as I can see, there is no stigma attached to this course and it is taught by regular IITM faculty. I doubt it if Vivekananda or Loyola college would be interested in teaching these students. I also believe that IIT faculty are better qualified to introduce them to the IIT system. 

Dear Rambo, your model will lead to students taking a huge number of years to complete their degree, if they get one at all.


Suresh, IITM
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Suresh, Here is a challenge.

Get a ST/SC Quota student to share his views on his experience at IITM as a quota student

The poor Quota student was not that stupid not to know there was a mess functioning during holidays. His scholarship would not pay for the mess bill during summer vacation and he was penniless. (This is from Up North and not IITM )

How would you know if there is stigma attached or not if you are not one of them ?

One student wrote that IIT is a terrible place as your own classmates look at you and treat you differently and you feel so insulted and left out. I can understand some arrogant fellows who got in through merit treating quota students badly. These are things you will never get to know as a faculty member ever.

How about enlightening some of us. Please explain how Sc and ST students get selected to do B Tech Degree What is the Process ? What do you teach these students in the extra year precisely ?


Rambo

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Subject:  'My list didn't lead to IIT suicide'


I have an anecdote from my friend who was former director of CFTRI (Dr. H. A. B. Parpia) in Mysore. He would even go one record. His son was a student in IIT Kanpur. His roommate was an SC who got admission into IIT thanks to quota. It seems he used to get up late, was never regular in attending classes and did not study all that hard. When my friend’s son suggested that he should change his studying habits and should not waste his time or lose years failing. He was told that he is having a nice time in the college and he does not mind losing few years. After all he said he was getting full scholarship and did not have to worry about money.  He also told his friend that he would not doubt clear his studies and would go to work. In his case he may take more years, but soon after taking job in some government department he would be promoted fast and despite poor grades he would still become his boss because of reservation. Therefore he does not have to work hard at all.

Well if this was narrated by some one other than Dr. Parpia, I would have not believed it. Dr. Parpia is spending all his time even at the ripe old age of 84 helping the slum children. I know he does not have any prejudice either.

I do not want to create an impression that all quota students are like the one described above. But this does show how the system can spoil even the best of us when there is non merit considerations are adopted to select people for jobs or for promotion.

Bhamy Shenoy
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Bhamy, I believe every word. 


When you give some one something he does not deserve and has not earned, could you expect anything different ?.

The Australian govt is desperately trying to make amends with the aboriginies by handing out Billions of dollars every year purely out of guilt.
 

What do the aboriginies do ? Spend all the money they get each week in the pub drinking and live in slums and shanty towns. One wold assume that they will use the money for education and assets but they do not want the western way of life they claim. Why because they are hand outs that they do not deserve. Politicians don’t care either as all they want is to be seen to be politically correct as is happening now with HRD pushing for 49% reservation.

What a sad state of affairs in an India that is expected to become a Super Power.

If the IT sector escaped the clutches of Politicians of the Licence Raj to enrich the nation there has to be a way out for Higher education too.
 

What if the 49% of merit students who are denied admission that belongs to them get picked up by the private sector and sent abroad for education expenses paid with a contract to work for the sponsor for a minimum of five years ?  This is just a what If ? 

It is possible for a country like Australia very short on population and has an aging population may even welcome the cream of India with the promise of a citizen ship. 

No one in their right mind will say no to such an offer

Rambo
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Not all faculty members at Sydney University were PHD's

Tall Building structures was taught by the Chief Engineer of a leading Construction company Civil and Civic. It was the most popular course as theman was incharge of a 45 story Qantas Building & Regent Hotel in the city.

Hey I abandoned my PhD because I was head hunted with an offer that I could not refuse. Had I completed my PhD I would be eligible to become a faculty at IITM but trust me I would have been hopeless. Not every one is good at teaching and that is the point I am trying to make. Also PhDs are limited to a specific topic  that has been chosen and does not make a PhD a true all round teacher of many subjects.

IITs would be much better off if there were 50% visiting Professors with field experience in the industry


Rambo
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Dear Rambo,

The one suicide that occurred during my IIT years (75-79) in my hostel was that of a Brahmin boy from Bangalore.  I am guessing there was some pressure to perform better, or fear of failure in tough competition.  Of course his parents and sisters were devastated by the loss of their precious only son/brother, from what my wife who knew the family told me later.  


Suicides by the way are not unheard of (a few occur almost every year) in highly competitive places like MIT in the US. IIMs on the other hand are relatively stress-free and not so rigorous as in hard engineering or science course from what some of my IITian classmates who had gone to IIMs told me. So I am not surprised that there is less (if any) occurrence of suicides in those institutions.

There were so few  reserved quota students (only about six in my hostel) during those years.  They were generally cohesive (amongst themselves, like all other student groups), yet I found them friendly and sociable over the years.  I suspect they had endured so much before they even entered IIT that they had already developed much thicker skin than you or me.  


Nevertheless, I predict that they will not be willing to share their true feelings on this forum or even with you or me in private until there is some gradual build up of trust / faith. 

They have been slighted or disparaged so much in this forum that if any of them ever became a member of this group, they would have left long ago or will keep quiet for a long time to come until the tone of discourse here turns around drastically to express more broadly felt and genuine appreciation for their travails.  (Looking at the number of our outspoken contributors who are yet to sign the apology on the url provided again recently by Daljit Singh gives some indication that it is not going to happen any time soon.)

BTW, I did recall immediately the organized beggars scenes from Pokiri when I read your other mail.  I laughed my head off when watching this movie a month or two ago.  Unlike that imaginary organization with a single focus, our IITM alumni are such a diverse group, in age, in location, in branch, in language, in caste, and in so many qualitites except for intelligence, that it is almost impossible for us to agree on any single goal political or otherwise.  However, all of us of course care about our alma mater and would like to reminisce and may be debate endlessly about their own ideas.

Regards,
Dhinakar
  Kompala
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 On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Prof. P. Sriram  wrote:

ok, this is the factual current position at iitm (iitd will be similar).  the b tech program is rated for 4 years/8 semesters and 165 credits - so the mean rate should be about 21 credits per semester. in order to stay in
the program, students are required to maintain a minimum rate of 14 credits per semester (this is more liberal than dropping two subjects).  extra allowance is made for the first year of the program and the credit
earning rate is reckoned only from 3rd semester onward. summer terms are not counted as semesters but one can do upto two courses (6-8 credits), so students can do courses during summer to push up the credit earning rate. note that at the minimum required rate of 14 credits per semester, the 4 year program will be stretched to 6 years.  the first time the rate drops below the minimum, the student is issued a warning and put on probation (and the parents are notified) - but the student is allowed to register. the second time this happens, the student is formally struck off the rolls and not allowed to register. however, the student can appeal this decision (and submit a plan of study that will raise the credit earning rate back to the minimum required) and the student will be routinely reinstated and the senate informed of this decision. the third time the student fails to maintain the rate, the student is once again struck off the rolls and not allowed to register. this time, however, any appeal is directed to the senate (or to diro, as chairman of senate) for a case by case decision. if there are extenuating circumstances (like death of a parent, a dibilitating health condition etc), the student is allowed to continue by treating one or more semesters as non-existant; if the student is plain weak and is having a chronic problem of maintaining the required credit rate, the appeal is turned down and the student is expelled from the program. this usually happens only when the student is projected to take more than 8 or 9 years to complete the program (though we have given degrees after 9 years also). iitd procedure is similar, though it appears that parental notification is delayed in comparison to iitm. also, at iitm, students who are halfway between the required rate (for 4 year graduation) and the minimum rate (14 credits per semester) are sent a warning letter reminding them of the minimum rate required and how close they are to it - so the 'striking off the rolls' is rarely a bolt from the blue. it really takes a lot to flunk out of the program like this and the fact that we are asking students to throw away some years of thier life weighs on us. we would wish not, but about 10% of students end up on probation.
     Sriram
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